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steph and a half
okay i didn't go for the interview.

how ironic that this popped up while i was researching about the company on google. read this moblog post by CraziED

the gist of the whole story is; these companies are all under the cobra group. they are at an office located at 98a tanjong pagar, under the name of "regional marketing offices". but for some reason, they've come up with names like "jeregon international", "redwoods advance", "visionX", "dirad pte ltd", and they hire people through job listings on jobsdb and jobcentral.

seriously, i think its unethical to do that. i mean, it isn't a scam or anything, but hello moron, if your job is about direct marketing and sales, then you should just say so instead of disguising it up with an attractive salary and job title. they didn't even mention it was commission based. they just said "2000 - 2500". not many people like direct sales jobs. a corporate sales job is fine, but its another thing to beg someone from a tanjong pagar office  to buy a $10 fan. and why the need for so many names?!

besides, i was rather surprised when the hr guy whom i spoke to on the phone emailed me with a gmail account. and the office building was called "regional marketing offices" but the company was called jeregon international. also, he included the emails of the other candidates for the job which i felt was rather unprofessional. and the weirdest part was that the interview was going to be held with the MD. because that's the HR's job and the hod job isn't it? i remember that from my days at grundfos.

well anyway, i want to reiterate that this job is not a scam, but well, don't go working for them unless you want to sell mio tv door to door.

EDIT (5/4/2013) This is my opinion about the group of companies. I am not saying they are evil, bad or corrupted; I just think its unethical to phrase your job advertisement in a way that misleads applicants. I think potential job applicants should know the truth about this company and I am glad that some potential job applicants were educated on how the company actually functions.

This was written 5 years ago after I graduated from NP. I think some of the comments in this thread are pretty useful so I have un-screened them. I have deleted a few nasty personal comments. I figure some of the idiots who think I am a failure for not going through with the interview might want to know that I have gone on to get my degree and am now working in Japan.

Since this post draws so many job applicants, I would like to do a mini survery! Does anybody here
1. hold a JLPT qualification
2. have a background in IT (2-3 years work experience or a Bachelors in anything IT related)
3. want to work as an IT engineer in Japan?

If you know someone who has the above, please comment too! This post is screened so your privacy is protected. I will not un-screen your answers. Thank you. (:
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From: zanzan84
2009-06-04 03:57 pm (UTC)

In addition (Pls Take Note !!!)

It's a bit late when i discover this write thru a fren of mine, as i went for the interview. I went for the interview by the name of "dreamworks advertising", also under the cobra grp. This office is even more ridiculous than getting commission off selling some fans. Dreamworks advertising is getting commissions by acting as agents for charity/non-profit organization, helping them to raise funds. They call themselves fund raisers....

The "fund raisers" get huge commission per donor they find for the client, which left me thinking how much of the donation made is going to the charity itself.

I felt too disgusted by their operations and left half way thru the interview. I hope that those who had read this comment would pass the word forward, and look out for 2 things.
1)the donations made, are they directly to the organization or thru a 3rd party like Dreamworks advertising
2)Pls refrain from working for such organizations with no ethics, even if u are really in need of money. DO NOT be blinded by the large commissions and the titles they offer.

Think about where yr commissions come from. To me, it's wrong.
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-02-11 05:54 pm (UTC)

Re: In addition (Pls Take Note !!!)

Hello Mr. Lalaland.

I would like to ask you - do you think those funds raised on charity shows such as Ren Ci or NKF goes completely to the charity organisation? Do you think that the whole show, the setup, the people involved, the work, everything should come completely free?

You say that the fund raisers get "huge commission" per donor they find and "how much of the donation made is going to the charity itself". So have you did any proper calculation before you make that implication?

Have you ever found out from those charity organisations how much funds were raised for them through such a channel? Have you ever saw the faces of those people who were aided by these funds? Do you dare stand before the charity organisations, the patients receiving the aids, and say loudly that "Guys, refrain from working for these companies to raise funds for those charity organisations anymore"? I'd like to see if you'll still see the same if anyone around you actually had to receive aids from these charity organisations.

Try as I might, but I am not able to this in any less harsher tone. Your irresponsible speech, formed by your own narrow and shallow point of view, could be, or might have been, affected the fund-raising efforts of fund-raisers, or even the amount of funds raised for the patients. You might not feel it because your mind is too narrow to see beyond the fair remuneration that the fund raisers are receiving for the rejections they face, the heat they endure, the time that they sacrificed, to get donors to help these charity organisations.

Put your hand over your own chest and think. If you are not able to do charity all year round and not get paid, then get off your high horses and stop talking like you are a holy person.
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-02-11 06:07 pm (UTC)

Re: In addition (Pls Take Note !!!)

http://yingweitan.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/appco-and-fundraising-for-charities/
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-01-26 08:56 am (UTC)

Hiii

Thanks Guys,

I've been called for an interview by both these companies after putting my resume on jobstreet.com and I was previously called by Dreamworks but was not able to attend the interview. Recently I've been contacted by Regional Marketing and after reading up about what people have been saying about it i'm quite double minded about it. I'm a fresh grad and I dont want to get caught up in any BS jobs. I want something real which will build a career.

feel free to email or facebook me at mustafa_rasheed@hotmail.com
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-04-22 04:28 am (UTC)

this is still on-going?

i rcved calls from dreamworks advertising, redwood advance & regional marketing within these 2 days since i posted my resume on jobstreet 2 days ago.. i was thinking why r these companies so desperate n efficient in asking me to go for interview. now that i read ur blog, then i finally realise the strategy behind, n worst still all these names r mentioned in ur blog.. omg the interviews r scheduled within this wkend and coming wk.

all the names of the position r management trainees /sales trainees. that tricked me into thinking they r genuine companies gg to grow me. i m def not gg to sell mio tv door to door... thank god i came across ur blog!
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-05-03 04:59 pm (UTC)

that was close..

ok me too.. I got a call from this lady from redwoods advance.. she talked pretty fast, and telling me that the director wants to see me for an interview (director so free meh?).. so, i said ok and took down whatever she told me to..

frankly, i didn't feel good..

1st: I don't remember applying for company by the name of Redwoods Advance.. I searched through my application history, and ofc, there's no such company

2nd: they responded really fast.. i just started to hunt for jobs, which was on 30th april.. it's very rare for recruiters to respond so fast.. the next thing, my interview is scheduled the next day.. SUPER FAST.. i kind of feel uncomfortable, because usually interviews are scheduled at least a few days after the phone call, or together with an email..

3rd: "Good things don't come easily" ever heard of this? Their job description is way too good, too good that it makes me wonder,"how come none of my relatives and frens are doing this kind of job, the pay is high isn't it?"

4th: Loads of thanks to netizens who painted to the me real picture.. while googling for redwoods advance, i came across APPCO website, n they seems to be linked.. I googled more and i found out about Cobra Grp and all other companies.. I noticed one familiar name, and i searched again through my application history, and that's it, "ascentia group"

anyway, my interview is today, so I m not gonna go! I'd rather go for my part time job and get my $40.. then go back home and continue applying for PROPER jobs.. (Qatar airways, stewardess anyone? =p they are coming this 22nd april)

actually, the job that they are doing, well, u can make money.. u can make lots of them, nothing wrong with it as long as u like it.. it's just that, the way they recruit, describe the jobscope, sounds too good to be true, hiding the truth while showing us like as if life is a bed of roses..

so, beware guys.. don't waste time doing a job which u dont like, then quit, then repeat the whole process again..
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-05-19 03:21 am (UTC)

it's total BS

I used to work for them , you'll be pleased to know not only do they teach the great methods of terrorizing and hard selling , in addition the company itself is corrupt as hell.

firstly , you don't get an employment contract so you aren't legally an "employee".

Secondly , you'll realise that nobody seems to pay income tax or even file their taxes.

Lastly , you can literally work yourself into debt there. There is no statement of commissions , no breakdown of how they pay you , what they pay you or anything of that sort.

When asked , they tell you that oh we had to deduct for roadshow costs , buying a new printer , boss to hire strippers...you get the idea.

so... after deducting 100 bucks for roadshow , 20 bucks for a new printer , 50 bucks for office rent and air con. you realise at the end of the month you owe them 300 bucks or so. This is the new slavery model , updated from the pharaohs of Egypt.

after 1 month of the lies , the politics and the general scam I had enough.

If you want to make an honest living , direct sales is a decent honest profession. Appco sales on the other hand makes Bernie Madoff look like Mother Theresa .
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-06-13 06:34 pm (UTC)

Re: it's total BS

I will go for the interview tomorrow and if what you guys are saying is right, I will blast them on their faces with their unprofessionalism :)
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From: eriel75
2010-06-15 09:30 am (UTC)

no to cobra

seriously dont go to any cobra grp interviews.
they interview 5 at a time.
2nd interview is half day field work.

and u bang the gong, shout cheers,
and basically be nice to everyone;
with a glazed over look.

keep looking for real jobs.
dont give in.
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-07-04 02:46 pm (UTC)

shady business?

tomorrow morning i am scheduled for an interview with Jeregon International and happen to chance upon this while finding more about the company thru Google.

i also had my doubts about the company for these reasons:
1) they used 'The Advertiser' instead of Jeregon International as the company name and when this guy called me up regarding the interview and mentioned Jeregon International, i had no recollection at all about applying for the job

2) the guy said he would email me the interview details and after approx 2hrs, he didn't. i called the office and his colleague said he had left for the day already! it was a Friday afternoon and my interview is Monday morning so it was rather urgent yah. i spent almost an hour plus just trying to get them to send over the email. sigh, how irresponsible!

3) the email finally reached my inbox, also thru a gmail a/c and worse of all, the position applied for was stated wrongly (Sales/Project Management Executive instead of Marketing and Promotions Executive)

4) took me by surprise that the interview was going to be with the Managing Director; i was applying for just an Exec role, not managerial leh...

after discovering all this info and also read some from scam.com on The Cobra Group, most prob i would be giving the interview a miss.
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-10-17 03:33 am (UTC)

Pls wake up your idea...

hi guys,

Seriously i believe you guys should have some respect. If you dont like the job, dont criticize it. If you dont like this job, dont work for it and go look for other jobs... every job as long as its not stealing or against the law, its fine... what right you guys have to say all these without even seriously finding out what they are doing...

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From: (Anonymous)
2010-11-09 02:07 am (UTC)

Re: Pls wake up your idea...

maybe you're a little "thick" in the head.

Some of us WERE from Dreamworks/Redwoods and we experienced the dynamics of being an "employee" (technically not one as we were considered self-employed). Having said that, I worked there for a little over 9 months and was stuck as "Team Manager" for quite some time. My pay? Peanuts. There were times when I only earned 700 bucks a month. (By the way the pay comes in weekly)

So, going back to your bit and i quote "...what right you guys have to say all these without even seriously finding out what they are doing..." are u serious? what a silly thing to say! Honestly i feel offended because you obviously have no mental capacity to analyse the discussion.

On to the next point, I don't see why anyone is not allowed to criticise if he/she didn't like the job@APPCO. Come on, it's the truth. I want to tell the public my two cents worth. You think APPCO is going to sue me for slander? APPCO doesn't care. Ask the owner of Dreamworks/Redwoods, they'll tell you the same thing. And they don't mind a bit. So, i'm a tad curious here. Why the hell do you care?

Since you have demonstrated your lack of understanding with regards to this matter; let me put it to you in simple English.

1. We hate APPCO because they practise a devious/deceptive method when it comes to recruiting. Yes they are right to detach themselves from being labelled as an MLM co, (MLM is structured Top-Bottom whilst APPCO goes from Bottom-TOP) however, the interview process is filled with lies and empty promises. The interviewer will paint a splendid picture of sugar-and-spice-all-things-nice.

2. Once in, you will never seem to understand the inner workings of the system. The senior execs will cleverly dismiss your enquiries; forget abt asking the owners, they're so good at evading such questions that you'll probably end up with a pep talk abt your sales target.

3. The system in practice is appalling. My team lost the set of tables and chairs and guess what? We had to foot the bill. (I will not elaborate so much on this but for the sake of certain people...) We were told to leave the tables and chairs at the location, and by some unforeseen circumstance, they went missing. So being the Team Manager, I had to pay for the loss!

4. Pay. Let's not go there aite? I earn so little I don't have to pay income tax.

Conclusion: APPCO runs its business with one thing in mind: Profits. With the exception of the Owners, the rest don't matter. Every credit card/donation/subscription only gets us employees a measly commission of 20-50 bucks. Even if we hit our target, we have to pay for "rent", "crap", "rubbish", "what-not" and as such, we end up with very little pay every week. Some of the unfortunate ones end up owing money! How is that even possible?

This can go on forever but let me just end here. Good luck to those who are considering this company. You have a higher chance of striking 4D than getting your supposedly 2-2.5k monthly pay. Bollocks!
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From: (Anonymous)
2011-06-29 05:23 am (UTC)

Re: Pls wake up your idea...

how long did u take to get promoted to team manager? and isnt there supposed to be a fixed income?
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-12-23 02:44 am (UTC)

ascentia group marketing

There is a group call Ascential Group Marketing located at Boat Quay.

Basically,something was wrong somewhere.I was told to wear a tie for a meeting from 11am to 5pm..

Time is precious to me,So I KNEW SOMETHING WAS NOT right for me
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From: (Anonymous)
2011-01-31 10:22 am (UTC)

Re: ascentia group marketing

Hi, so is this company a mlm company?
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-12-23 02:46 am (UTC)

marketing

Even a CEO position does not last that long,My dad was transfer to a MNC company for high level position,the most is only 2 hours
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2011-01-10 03:20 am (UTC)

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From: (Anonymous)
2011-11-17 06:43 pm (UTC)

This world is neutral. There's no good or bad.

People who left IBM will have something to say bad about the company. No need to feel defensive about people who have their freedom of speech. People who left negative feedbacks usually have not so fantastic progression or usually hearsay from someone. People can say all they want and they can say whatever they want. To excel in any sales company, we should not let these people convince us. Well if they are owners or vice presidents, ok I give it to them, but come on, after all not everyone is successful in sales so it's ok most people give up before they try. After all, most successful sales people have their friends or family mocking at them but they choose only focus on their goals and forget unnessary negatives. You don't expect to sign everyone up in sales after all, some people believe in helping charities, some feels it's scam. Everyone is right.

If Appco is a scam, all the charities they are working with is a scam,( wwf, cancer society, UNICEF, sg heart foundation ) all the telco they worked with is scam (Starhub, Singtel, skytv), all the banks they working with is a scam,(standard chartered, hsbc, citibank, American express)
all the energy company company ( Australia power and gas, npowers) are all scammers because they outsource their sales solution to Appco. It's very easy to put the blame to every where when we did not succeed, it's just human to blame on others. I hope everyone who used to worked in Appco have find somewhere they are happy as the company teach them one or two sales skills they can apply. If Appco is a mlm, then apple would also be. If an employee performs well then the manager ask him to train 3 more people to be better, viola, mlm has been created. So maybe apple is an mlm. If Appco is a scam, they have done quite a good job to scam 26 countries, 5 continents over 25 years, scammed 17,000 to work everyday to scam another 1 million ppl out there everyday. There's no perfect company, only the minority who cause bad name for a company. There are not everyone who like sales people, but they are people who benefitted from an honest salesperson. If everyone loves sales job, no one drives the taxi and bus for you. Not everyone likes performance based job because some Just Prefer a job security. Not everyone likes going outdoors to speak to strangers which is fine. Not everyone excel sales fast, not everyone get promoted, not everyone makes good money. There's alw a balance in everything.
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From: (Anonymous)
2011-12-01 03:26 am (UTC)
Having gone for an interview based on my application for this job advertisement, it was found that this company, Dreamworks Advertising is a sub contractor under banks for credit card sales. This position primarily entails applicants to work from booths in various public location, intercepting passer bys to sign up for contracted credit cards.

Having been trained professionally in marketing, I find this advertisement extremely misleading as sales and marketing are separate business functions and cannot be classified as one. Further more, this job is undeniably based on direct sales and there is no marketing component to it. Therefore, its job title is severely misleading and has to be corrected. Furthermore, based on my experience, the interview is based on a 3 pronged stage test and neither the firm's advertisement nor its interview process gives mention to its job function being that of direct credit card sales until the 'successful' job candidates have committed themselves.

This advertisement is wrongfully capitalizing on job seekers' yearn for a job offer through a reputable portal. If nothing is being done, it would be in my opinion that this would be detrimental to Jobstreets' reputation as a trusted portal amongst jobseekers.
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From: (Anonymous)
2011-12-12 03:49 pm (UTC)

Can I share it on Facebook?

I want to share it on my Facebok wall
You can find me there as Bark Pacober
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From: (Anonymous)
2012-02-01 08:08 pm (UTC)
Hie guys.. Den wat abt DIRAD cmpny?
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From: (Anonymous)
2012-05-08 04:23 pm (UTC)
Thank goodness that i accidentally stumbled onto this blog. This is by far the best accident in my entire life !!!
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From: (Anonymous)
2012-05-29 04:15 pm (UTC)
Hi there, I don't know if you'll see this, but two years on, your post is still helping fresh grads like me steer clear of rogue employers who offer empty promises. I actually read this while I was in the midst of an interview with Redwoods Advance. This post is incredibly helpful because the guys at Redwoods appeared extremely reluctant to let me in on the whole truth about the way their company operates. You also saved me from wasting my time at interviews with Ascentia, Dreamworks and the likes. THANK YOU.
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[User Picture]From: shoutforsteph
2012-05-29 04:57 pm (UTC)
You are welcome. I am glad my post helped!
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[User Picture]From: shoutforsteph
2012-05-29 05:07 pm (UTC)
Hi all, I wrote this post to inform fresh graduates/job-seekers the truth behind these companies. I am not sure whether things have changed now since its been 4 years since I wrote this post. I am not trying to criticize these companies, nor am I calling them a scam. I do NOT think they are fraudulent, but I believe that their job advertisement on job portals were misleading, which is why I wrote this.

Well anyway, I am glad this post has helped so many of you. Thanks for reading!
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From: (Anonymous)
2012-06-12 01:57 pm (UTC)
Does anybody know if Achieva Marketing is part of Appco?
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From: (Anonymous)
2012-06-27 06:27 pm (UTC)
Thank goodness for having this blog online.

I went for Dream Works Advertising interview today and they called me back for a 2nd interview.

I gotta say I had a really good feeling today after going to the interview and finding an event sales sort of work.
BUT, I really cannot sell products which hangs on the ethical fence.

U are right, there are no clear explanation of the job scope and I didnt even get to ask questions.

This is not my first encounter with MLM sort of companies and with so many diff job encounters b4, I cant believe I still fail to see one right from the start.

I love to interact and maybe has the potential for sales.
But nah, not this type.

Cheers, appreciate this post
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[User Picture]From: shoutforsteph
2012-11-16 04:45 am (UTC)
you are very welcome! glad it helped.
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From: (Anonymous)
2012-07-03 06:35 am (UTC)
Wow thanks for writing this post.
I just got called by Redwoods for an interview and then I decided to google them and came across this.

What everyone said here was/is true; there was once I went for the interview with Dirad, their MD's name was some cool sci-fi sounding initials of his original chinese name, but I couldn't recall what it was. I remembered it sounded very "space action hero".
But I digress, thing is immediately they offered me a second interview the following day, and they told me to keep myself free from 11am to 7pm. Back then I was working as a sales guy in a media agency, so I had abit of freedom of running around but NOT THAT MUCH FREEDOM for like 8hours right? That's ridiculous. He told me I was going to attend a course where I would understand the full aspect of the company in the different areas and then I will get to choose which one is most suited for me.
Lucky I rejected his 2nd interview offer.


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From: (Anonymous)
2012-07-27 05:41 am (UTC)
Hi!

I was called by this company 'FT Group'. Felt a bit skeptical about it so i google them but didnt ee their website. Apparently they said my resume on jobstreet was recommended to them. Anyway, when I reached the place for the interview (at Shaw Tower) I immediately had this dreaded feeling because the words at the counter says 'Redwoods Advance' which I know is a no good company from last year. Just to be curious I asked the interviewer if FT Group is a subsidiary of RA, the person said RA is the parent company and I'm like thinking to myself 'and I'm sure RA has its parent company. ' he wouldn't tell me how the salary works too. Either way I'm not going to the second interview even of they call me. I'm just worried whether they will do anyth about my Ic photocopy. They can't do anyth right?

I'm on my way to my second interview at Ritz Events Asia. I really hope it's a reliable events company cos I've always wanted to work in the events sector and not just sham sales marketing company. the website looks cool even. I'm just worried now as to whether the nice website is just for show.. I certainly hope not! And nth bad seems to have popped up upon googling. Maybe you guys can let me know if you've heard anyth?

Thanks for this post anw! I think it serves as a good warning to ppl who arent familiar to the market. (:
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From: (Anonymous)
2012-07-31 03:24 pm (UTC)
Thank you for this discussion.

They did process my application rather quickly too. I was told that they like to do things fast there. Throughout the interviews they did paint a rosy picture of what the company does at large and the benefits of joining the company. Interviews was also done by management and not the HR. Going is as a sales and marketing executive and not a manager. Why the need for the boss to meet me? Interview was also rather badly planned. Waited for 1.5hours before the manager saw me. (Rather stupid of me to wait so long). If they cannot keep time why should I. Then abruptly decided while I was already seated in the interview room "hey why dont the rest of the applicants for round 2 come in for the interview too". O.o

I went for the 3rd interview today, with a rather rushed and "I'm not free, see so many other people waiting to be interviewed" attitude (to interview 6 other 1st round candidates with the same time slot as me , bad time management) and nothing mentioned about the company or the job I told the interviewer that I was not really keen in doing the job, as it was not my area of interest.But just before I left the interviewer insisted that I came in by the end of this week for a full day observation to see what the job is like before I make a decision. I said no thanks, and kept pushing to me a for a date. The interviewer don't seem to handle rejection well, even if their main and constant reminder through out the rounds of interviews was that I must be able to handle rejection.

I left the office feeling stupefied at her persistence and the interviewer's telling me that I have to come no matter what, like I am at her beck and call. I have other appointments for the week that I could not cancel and already them that I was not interested. Till now no mention of the pay package was mentioned even if they did mentioned over the telephone twice. Upon recall, I remembered that my answers were not really answered for all three interviews. Just the point of good pay, good opportunities, cannot be missed and take this opportunity to learn new thing, good progression / fast promotion.

They were right, I did learn something out of the experience, nothing is too good to be true. Salary of $2k - $5k /month sounds nice for an individual with no work experience, but there is a gap is too wide and varied that it is unsettling. The feeling is not right too. Questions are left unanswered and elaboration of answers are inconsistent or too 'rehearsed' that I knew what they would tell me. AND not to look for information this late into the interview to confirm any suspicions.

Lesson learnt, nothing is too good to be true.

Good luck to all reading this forum discussion on their future endeavour and interview adventures. :)

Oh, anyone filed a complaint to MOM?
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From: (Anonymous)
2012-11-25 06:49 pm (UTC)
Some kids came to my door yesterday asking donations for WWF. Now I know where these people are from and who they work for, thanks to your post.
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From: (Anonymous)
2012-11-15 07:34 am (UTC)
Thanks for sharing. Helped a lot. :)
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From: (Anonymous)
2012-11-16 03:34 am (UTC)
To everyone who stumbles upon this blog, instead of giving my personal opinion, I will let great men with great words speak:



"Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others. Unsuccessful people are always asking, "What's in it for me?"" - Brian Tracy

"Life is like a game, you can play it safe and be good, or you can take a chance and be great." - Unknown

"As a rule, men worry more about what they can't see than about what they can." - Julius Caesar

“Fanatics clouded by self-justification.”- Toba Beta (what I think this blog is all about)

"It's not people who resent successful people; it's resentful people who resent successful people." - Bo Bonnett



So, whatever decision you make about the interview, or any experiences that you have had in ANY company:
"If you think you can, or if you think you can't, either way, you're right." - Henry Ford
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[User Picture]From: shoutforsteph
2012-11-16 04:54 am (UTC)
I think you already gave your personal opinion when you left "quotes from great men". I have had a few negative comments from this post, but yours is really patronizing.

“Fanatics clouded by self-justification.”- Toba Beta (what I think this blog is all about) .. oh you know what? I don't even want to deal with you and your immense stupidity. Go ahead, be a great man and work for one of those companies.
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From: (Anonymous)
2013-04-03 01:28 pm (UTC)
Hi steph, think they recently changed their name to Infinity Organisation. Same address as Appco, and other associated acts..
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From: (Anonymous)
2013-04-04 01:52 pm (UTC)
Lol.those who fails always complain.u get the example from all the negative people here.i'm not from appco but i felt pity for you.
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[User Picture]From: shoutforsteph
2013-04-04 11:59 pm (UTC)
oh honey, go and take some english lessons.
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From: (Anonymous)
2013-06-18 07:33 am (UTC)
Excellent blog! Extremely surprised when I got 3 calls just after one day of job hunting via the Internet. After researching online and thankfully stumbling on to your blog I realised that it was too to be true. Thanks for for this steph!
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From: (Anonymous)
2013-07-16 07:57 am (UTC)
wow, thanks for the post! so amazing how this post is still relevant in 2013. got called by Dreamworks Advertising. It was partially my fault for mass-sending my resume as well, but the title of "Management Trainee" was super misleading.

Only got to read up more about the company after i agreed to the first interview. but still glad this post came up. the guy smsed me the interview details (what happened to email?!). Just replied to his sms that I am not interested. Please be careful people! Lots of companies are making use of the Management Trainee title to recruit, so please read the jobscope carefully!!
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From: (Anonymous)
2013-09-18 06:49 am (UTC)
Wow thanks to this blog, I decided not to take up a job at infinity organisation. I'm a degree holder with second upper honors, can't believe they try to talk me out of getting a stable $3000 job to do their stupid mrt station sales.
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From: thedevilcorp.wordpress.com
2014-12-20 05:03 pm (UTC)

I agree

These people are parasites.
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From: Chee Kin
2016-12-28 01:35 am (UTC)

Working in japan

Hey there, I stumbled upon your blog by chance. Currently looking for job opportunities in Japan but unfortunately I am not majoring in IT. Do you have any advise for me? Cheers!
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